Meltdown/negativity thread

[WavetheWheat]

I am sorry if this will be unpopular. The guy isn't ready. The Opurum decision is despicable. You can not make this decision in late August.

Kid absolutely killed for us last year as a true frosh. Busted his ass and broke his leg.

Turner Gill gets an F today. Huge F.

Fuck.

[Protist]

Re: Our coach simply isn't ready to be a BCS coach...

We'll see soon enough. I don't see the need for you to speculate before the fact. Does you really think that you know, just by eyeballing the situation, whether a coach is ready or not to coach a BCS team?

[blackPHOGmoan]

Re: Our coach simply isn't ready to be a BCS coach...

You mean the switch positions a week before the first game isn't a good decision??? YOU'RE FUCKING NUTS!!!!!

[sweaterbydarwin]

Re: Our coach simply isn't ready to be a BCS coach...

Don't like the Opurum move but we'll see. I have no real expectations this season. Honestly, wouldn't be nearly as put out by it if I didn't like TO as much as I do. He seems like a real good kid.

And switching positions is nothing new. Hell, Mangino would do it midweek, mid season.

[KVN638]

Re: Our coach simply isn't ready to be a BCS coach...

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS WtW is back and setting up to blow up on this board all year.

[ShooterFlatch]

Re: Our coach simply isn't ready to be a BCS coach...

Put me down for another "NO" on corporal-captain.

I loved Opurum last year, what a bruiser. Very similar to Quigs in style (punishing) yet he didn't turn it over like Quigs. Looks like an awful move when focused on Opurum but it may be more of a statement on how poorly our LB depth is lining up.

[bigkufan]

Re: Our coach simply isn't ready to be a BCS coach...

Terrible move. Makes no sense when you hear things like Steven Foster still hasn't put it together at FB.

[IceHawkE]

Re: Our coach simply isn't ready to be a BCS coach...

Hey WtW, just for once perhaps you could step back and think things through before you start yet another hair-on-fire thread.

TG is in a tough spot. We are very thin at LB with the loss of Tharp for the season and Thomas being punted from the deep, and we are pretty deep at RB. Sometimes coaches are forced to make a move they really don't want to make and I think this is one of those situations.

MM did do this all the time, why are you so fucking up in arms when TG does it?

[Milo]

Re: Our coach simply isn't ready to be a BCS coach...

I would have to agree with you that I do not like the decision. When I heard the news I actually screamed "what the fuck." I like Angus, but he has shown a knack for fumbles. We also only have 1 more year with him. Opurum is young and we could develop him.

It pisses me off that our coach, no matter who it is, takes a very talented member of the offense to plug into a defense that should have been filled by recruiting. Look at the Patterson decision with the old staff. The dude tore it up as WR as a freshman. We yank him. It didn't hurt as much because of our depth at WR the last few seasons. But he was a marginal DB. This one could bite us in the ass. We have several RBs. Opurum is the only proven asset. The other guys at RB hardly touched the ball at all last year.

MM did it all the time, but the only real success story was Gordon. The rest were not as good at their new position as they were at their old.

[WavetheWheat]

Re: Our coach simply isn't ready to be a BCS coach...

Because Ice. He was our leading returning tailback last year who hasn't hardly been able to practice because he broke his freaking leg for us last season. He didn't get a chance to prove what he could do.

Name one other freshman all big 12 player (rivals.com) that has been forced to move sides of the ball.

TO deserved a chance. If he couldn't cut it this year as RB than move him. He shouldn't have lost his job due to broken leg.

Perge.

[Milo]

Re: Our coach simply isn't ready to be a BCS coach...

[quote author=IceHawkE link=topic=575.msg6649#msg6649 date=1282310689]
Hey WtW, just for once perhaps you could step back and think things through before you start yet another hair-on-fire thread.

TG is in a tough spot. We are very thin at LB with the loss of Tharp for the season and Thomas being punted from the deep, and we are pretty deep at RB. Sometimes coaches are forced to make a move they really don't want to make and I think this is one of those situations.

MM did do this all the time, why are you so fucking up in arms when TG does it?
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He is in a tough spot, but this screams of panic and is far from a long term solution. We are going to have a rough year. We have a new staff, we lost massive amounts of talent in the skill positions, we have a new QB, new offensive scheme, a tough non con, etc. One of the most stable things you can have is a power running game that can cover for a bad defense by ball control and be the anchor for the team. Quigs can control the ball, but so can Opurum. The difference is Opurum has already had a better year running the ball than Quigs ever did as a true freshman! We may need a solution at the LB, but we will need Opurum back at RB his Junior and Senior years when we start to play the badass "new Big 12" schedule. This decision is pretty inexplicable.

[IceHawkE]

Re: Our coach simply isn't ready to be a BCS coach...

[quote author=WavetheWheat link=topic=575.msg6657#msg6657 date=1282312035]
Because Ice. He was our leading returning tailback last year who hasn't hardly been able to practice because he broke his freaking leg for us last season. He didn't get a chance to prove what he could do.

Name one other freshman all big 12 player (rivals.com) that has been forced to move sides of the ball.

TO deserved a chance. If he couldn't cut it this year as RB than move him. He shouldn't have lost his job due to broken leg.

Perge.
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The needs of the team are more important than the needs of anyone particular player. The logic and tone of your posts regarding this move seem more like you feel sorry for the TO and perhaps an anti-TG bias. It's like you are looking for a reason to bash TG, just like you look for reasons to bash Lew Perkins.

For the record, I would have loved to see what OP could have done this year on offense, but the coaching staff felt he could help the TEAM better by switching him to LB.

The reality is that no one knows if this is a good move on August 20th.

[Milo]

Re: Our coach simply isn't ready to be a BCS coach...

[quote author=IceHawkE link=topic=575.msg6663#msg6663 date=1282313244]
[quote author=WavetheWheat link=topic=575.msg6657#msg6657 date=1282312035]
Because Ice. He was our leading returning tailback last year who hasn't hardly been able to practice because he broke his freaking leg for us last season. He didn't get a chance to prove what he could do.

Name one other freshman all big 12 player (rivals.com) that has been forced to move sides of the ball.

TO deserved a chance. If he couldn't cut it this year as RB than move him. He shouldn't have lost his job due to broken leg.

Perge.
[/quote]

The needs of the team are more important than the needs of anyone particular player. The logic and tone of your posts regarding this move seem more like you feel sorry for the TO and perhaps an anti-TG bias. It's like you are looking for a reason to bash TG, just like you look for reasons to bash Lew Perkins.

For the record, I would have loved to see what OP could have done this year on offense, but the coaching staff felt he could help the TEAM better by switching him to LB.

The reality is that no one knows if this is a good move on August 20th.
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You are right, no one knows if this is a good move. We can still express our opinions on it. The same was thought last year when moving Quigs to LB. Staff thought it would help the team. He got placed in purgatory and helped the team zero.

What we do know is that Quigs and Opurum are both bruisers. Opurum was our leading rusher. Quigs has been a career backup with fumble issues. I can see where our opinion isn't based on what we already know.

I'd love to be wrong here.

[Liljohnny]

Re: Our coach simply isn't ready to be a BCS coach...

Everybody keeps saying Quigley is fumble-prone. How many career fumbles does he have? Every place I can find Quigley stats says he has 0 fumbles.

[Hawker007]

Re: Our coach simply isn't ready to be a BCS coach...

What I don't understand is why don't you move Quigley back to LB? He already has a year experience playing there, and you don't move your leading rusher. The only reason I can think of is that Quigley might have told TG that if he moved him back, he would just quit (he has nothing to lose).