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  • Is Brady our MOST effective PG?

    I don't mean best, or most skilled. But it is hard to deny that Self has a ton of respect for the guy, and Bill put him in to calm everyone down. He brought the ball up the court and didn't turn it over. Everyone knows he is in the shooting slump of ALL shooting slumps (he admits it himself), but dang the kid ran the offense better then Taylor today. The game is still too fast for Selby.

    So I ask, is Brady our most effective PG right now?

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    Re: Is Brady our MOST effective PG?

    He'll always be the free throw slip king to me

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    • #3
      Re: Is Brady our MOST effective PG?

      he had 3 almost turnovers that were poked out of bounds by Richardson or whoever else. He also missed 3 wide open 3's. Tyshawn Taylor hit his open 3's. Think about that. TT hits his 3's where he's open and BM doesn't.

      Yes, he had a play where he saved the ball and led to a Reed 3 which was a massive turn of events. But the guy isn't good at basketball anymore. I swear he's gotten worse with each year. Self loves him, but Reed does better than him at calming the team down AND actually posing as an offensive and defensive threat. BM can't hit a shot and gets burned at every possession, Reed does not.

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      • #4
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        I have to disagree with you KVN... surprise surprise. Tyshawn was a liability. 5 first possesions of 2nd half, 5 turn overs. With Tyshawn running the point. Brady comes in and things settle. I was not asking if he was the best shooter, the best offensive threat, etc. Tonight he was simply effective. There is a reason Self had him running the offense the 2nd half. There is a reason we came back and won.

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        • #5
          Re: Is Brady our MOST effective PG?

          I agree with ICT. Brady is excellent at creating shots for others. Whether it was kicking it out to an open player or throwing what was essentially a no-look pass to Reed who hit the three, he seems to find a way to make a play.

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          • #6
            Re: Is Brady our MOST effective PG?

            [quote author=ICThawk link=topic=3205.msg36638#msg36638 date=1295160915]
            I have to disagree with you KVN... surprise surprise. Tyshawn was a liability. 5 first possesions of 2nd half, 5 turn overs. With Tyshawn running the point. Brady comes in and things settle. I was not asking if he was the best shooter, the best offensive threat, etc. Tonight he was simply effective. There is a reason Self had him running the offense the 2nd half. There is a reason we came back and won.
            [/quote]

            You're blaming the 5 possessions of the 2nd on TT? 3 of those were Selby. That's why he sat the rest of the game.


            And Oobers, you saying you want a Balbay to run the point? A guy who poses no offensive threat whatsoever? And you guys are looking at one game and saying this? With the horrible season Brady has had, he's probably still near the worse on the team with TO/AST ratio. He was at 1.85 at one point. He had 2 turnovers for every assist.

            We don't need a Balbay running our point. He's a huge liability on defense. He's slow and can't cover anyone that is athletic.

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            • #7
              Is Brady our MOST effective PG?

              [quote author=KVN638 link=topic=3205.msg36648#msg36648 date=1295193859]
              [quote author=ICThawk link=topic=3205.msg36638#msg36638 date=1295160915]
              I have to disagree with you KVN... surprise surprise. Tyshawn was a liability. 5 first possesions of 2nd half, 5 turn overs. With Tyshawn running the point. Brady comes in and things settle. I was not asking if he was the best shooter, the best offensive threat, etc. Tonight he was simply effective. There is a reason Self had him running the offense the 2nd half. There is a reason we came back and won.
              [/quote]

              You're blaming the 5 possessions of the 2nd on TT? 3 of those were Selby. That's why he sat the rest of the game.


              And Oobers, you saying you want a Balbay to run the point? A guy who poses no offensive threat whatsoever? And you guys are looking at one game and saying this? With the horrible season Brady has had, he's probably still near the worse on the team with TO/AST ratio. He was at 1.85 at one point. He had 2 turnovers for every assist.

              We don't need a Balbay running our point. He's a huge liability on defense. He's slow and can't cover anyone that is athletic.
              [/quote]

              Lemme clarify, I was speaking more to this last game. Brady led the offense most effectively. Also to say Brady is a crap defender is BS. Personally I think Self knows better than we do (hence his 80%+ W/L percentage), and he regularly brings in Brady for smart, effective defense. Just look at the end of the ISU game.

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              • #8
                Re: Is Brady our MOST effective PG?

                [quote author=ICThawk link=topic=3205.msg36653#msg36653 date=1295195404]
                [quote author=KVN638 link=topic=3205.msg36648#msg36648 date=1295193859]
                [quote author=ICThawk link=topic=3205.msg36638#msg36638 date=1295160915]
                I have to disagree with you KVN... surprise surprise. Tyshawn was a liability. 5 first possesions of 2nd half, 5 turn overs. With Tyshawn running the point. Brady comes in and things settle. I was not asking if he was the best shooter, the best offensive threat, etc. Tonight he was simply effective. There is a reason Self had him running the offense the 2nd half. There is a reason we came back and won.
                [/quote]

                You're blaming the 5 possessions of the 2nd on TT? 3 of those were Selby. That's why he sat the rest of the game.


                And Oobers, you saying you want a Balbay to run the point? A guy who poses no offensive threat whatsoever? And you guys are looking at one game and saying this? With the horrible season Brady has had, he's probably still near the worse on the team with TO/AST ratio. He was at 1.85 at one point. He had 2 turnovers for every assist.

                We don't need a Balbay running our point. He's a huge liability on defense. He's slow and can't cover anyone that is athletic.
                [/quote]

                Lemme clarify, I was speaking more to this last game. Brady led the offense most effectively. Also to say Brady is a crap defender is BS. Personally I think Self knows better than we do (hence his 80%+ W/L percentage), and he regularly brings in Brady for smart, effective defense. Just look at the end of the ISU game.
                [/quote]

                because Christopherson, or whatever, is totally known for his athletic ability. Bringing Brady in to cover a 3 specialist doesn't mean he has good defense. If the guy is athletic, Brady gets burned. BTW, Christopherson burned Brady twice and drove teh lane for a layup...

                And I'm not saying I disagree with Self, he's the coach and he should do whatever the hell he wants, he has 95 win percentage at home, so whatever the fuck he wants seems to work for him. But he even said he will play a 24 year old man over an 18 year old kid any day. He plays Brady because Brady has been there before and is less likely to get rattled. Not because Brady is some kind of defensive guru.

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                • #9
                  Re: Is Brady our MOST effective PG?

                  The thought that Brady is somehow a defensive guru is a joke. Especially at the PG position.
                  Notice how when Brady was in we couldn't pick up full court because he can't stay with a PG? Everyone else was ready to pressure full court and Brady is standing back from his guy 15 feet so he doesn't get burned.

                  Also, sure Brady did alright yesterday as a point, but they never pressed him. He isn't comfortable handling the ball against pressure. If he plays PG they just won't have anyone guard him and we're playing 4 on 5.
                  How about when teams go zone against us? Brady does nothing. He is a zero threat to score so they don't even have to step out on him.

                  The reason we won yesterday was because of our bigs, not because of who was playing PG.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Is Brady our MOST effective PG?

                    [quote author=dominatindj11 link=topic=3205.msg36689#msg36689 date=1295205001]
                    I don't like white basketball players.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Is Brady our MOST effective PG?

                      [quote author=WavetheWheat link=topic=3205.msg36691#msg36691 date=1295205134]
                      [quote author=dominatindj11 link=topic=3205.msg36689#msg36689 date=1295205001]
                      I don't like white basketball players.
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                      [/quote]

                      Good try.

                      You would have been correct if you changed it to....."I don't like shitty basketball players who bring nothing to the court."

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                      • #12
                        Re: Is Brady our MOST effective PG?

                        [quote author=dominatindj11 link=topic=3205.msg36697#msg36697 date=1295205643]
                        [quote author=WavetheWheat link=topic=3205.msg36691#msg36691 date=1295205134]
                        [quote author=dominatindj11 link=topic=3205.msg36689#msg36689 date=1295205001]
                        I don't like white basketball players.
                        [/quote]
                        [/quote]
                        Screw Honkeys
                        [/quote]

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                        • #13
                          Re: Is Brady our MOST effective PG?

                          http://uponfurtherreview.kansascity.com/?q=node/2843

                          By this measure Brady was marginally better than Taylor and Selby and Johnson but it's not overwhelming. After 5 straight possessions without getting a shot off Self had to do something.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Is Brady our MOST effective PG?

                            [quote author=KVN638 link=topic=3205.msg36636#msg36636 date=1295160216]
                            he had 3 almost turnovers that were poked out of bounds by Richardson or whoever else. He also missed 3 wide open 3's. Tyshawn Taylor hit his open 3's. Think about that. TT hits his 3's where he's open and BM doesn't.

                            Yes, he had a play where he saved the ball and led to a Reed 3 which was a massive turn of events. But the guy isn't good at basketball anymore. I swear he's gotten worse with each year. Self loves him, but Reed does better than him at calming the team down AND actually posing as an offensive and defensive threat. BM can't hit a shot and gets burned at every possession, Reed does not.
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                            KVN, Tyshawn was terrible yesterday. Our best lineup yesterday was Reed, Brady, Mc and Mk and TRob. Tyshawn is a liability at least 50% of the time he's out there. Brady also isn't in there to make 3s, and neither is Tyshawn who shoots 31% from 3. Tyshawn threw one ball way by just chucking it up over everyone on a high low play out of bounds. It was unforced, and ugly. I don't/can't trust Tyshawn with the ball. We have no point guard, just a bunch of combo guards. Its a shame that Selby can't be our point guard and can't dribble.

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