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  • Revisiting the Toben Opurum/James Sims debate

    First Toben did appear to make an impact at DE. So good for him. I hope he has found a position in which this staff will actually play him as I would argue he is one of the top 10 football players on our roster.

    Most felt/feel that James Sims is the far superior back. Lets look at the numbers....

    Player A:

    ATT --- YDS --- AVG --- LNG --- TD --- REC --- YDS --- AVG --- LNG --- RecTD
    168 --- 742 --- 4.4 --- 28 --- 9 --- 19 --- 134 --- 7.1 --- 30 --- 1

    Player B:

    ATT --- YDS --- AVG --- LNG --- TD --- REC --- YDS --- AVG --- LNG --- RecTD
    133 --- 554 --- 4.2 --- 26 --- 9 --- 13 --- 105 --- 8.1 --- 30 --- 1

    Obviously player A got a few more carries & a few more receptions, but averages and touchdown are nearly identical. Receptions are identical. Explosive runs appear identical.

    Other than your own (potentially biased) eye test. To me these true freshman running backs appear very similar.

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    Re: Revisiting the Toben Opurum/James Sims debate

    yeah, except Opurum got to play with a hell of a lot better passing game than Sims

    You honestly think running behind last years line with Briscoe, Meier, and Todd throwing it is anything comparable to what Sims had to work with this year?

    It's a minor miracle that Sims had as good of a year as he did

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    • #3
      Re: Revisiting the Toben Opurum/James Sims debate

      what was the conference YPC, yards, and rushes? That's more important.



      I'm not being sarcastic either, I just would rather compare those.

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      • #4
        Re: Revisiting the Toben Opurum/James Sims debate

        [quote author=KVN638 link=topic=2427.msg27586#msg27586 date=1291100331]
        what was the conference YPC, yards, and rushes? That's more important.



        I'm not being sarcastic either, I just would rather compare those.
        [/quote]



        They didn't play in the same offense and they didn't play against the same defenses so it doesn't matter which stats you choose to compare, it's all meaningless.

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        • #5
          Re: Revisiting the Toben Opurum/James Sims debate

          [quote author=KVN638 link=topic=2427.msg27586#msg27586 date=1291100331]
          what was the conference YPC, yards, and rushes? That's more important.



          I'm not being sarcastic either, I just would rather compare those.
          [/quote]

          Conference play.

          Toben -
          65 carries. 234 yards. 3.6 yd/car. 14yd long. 3 TD.
          5 rec. 20 yards. 4 yd/rec. 0TD.

          Sims -
          115 carries. 542 yards. 3.9 yd/car. 28yd long. 6 TD.
          16 rec. 83 yards. 5.2 yd/rec. 1 TD.

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          • #6
            Re: Revisiting the Toben Opurum/James Sims debate

            I don't think it matters. The only position we are stacked at is RB. Not everyone is going to get the carries. Sims and Bourbon are going to get the majority next year. Opurum is probably superior to Sands and Beshears at RB. I was against the move this year, if Opurum transfers, I won't hold it against him. He can develop at DE/LB.

            I agree that he is one of our top 10 players on the team. I hope he sticks around, we can utilize him somewhere on the football field.

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            • #7
              Re: Revisiting the Toben Opurum/James Sims debate

              I think T.O. can be a Von Miller at DE.

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              • #8
                Revisiting the Toben Opurum/James Sims debate

                I wonder what will happen with Rell Lewis next year.

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                • #9
                  Re: Revisiting the Toben Opurum/James Sims debate

                  [quote author=Jayhawker link=topic=2427.msg27705#msg27705 date=1291144787]
                  I wonder what will happen with Rell Lewis next year.
                  [/quote]

                  From what I can remember of his short stint of PT last year, he's better than Sands.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Revisiting the Toben Opurum/James Sims debate

                    He was fast, had good hands, and in the 09 Spring Game he was out there a lot and looked great.

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