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    As if stealing our money and humiliating us nation wide with his FBI and Ethics Committee investigation wasn't enough....

    http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/o...gill/?football....

    Antsy fans of Kansas University football already dreaming of a coaching change won’t like the reality of Turner Gill’s contract. It’s as one-sided in Gill’s favor as the recent outcomes have been for KU’s opponents.

    If Gill were asked to leave at season’s end, the athletic department would have to come up with $8 million, within 90 days, to send him on his way. His five-year, $10 million contract does not include a buyout.

    With big-time bucks already going to former coach Mark Mangino and former athletic director Lew Perkins, KU simply is not in a position to eat that kind of cash.

    Not all Big 12 coaches have it so one-sided in their favor.

    A review of nine other Big 12 coaches’ contracts — as a private institution Baylor is not required to release such information and the contract of Texas Tech coach Tommy Tuberville was not available as of Wednesday — showed that most coaches would suffer a financial penalty for terminating the contract. Texas A&M coach Mike Sherman, for example, would owe the Aggies $1.8 million (his annual salary) for leaving before his contract expires, just as Gill did when he had to pay the University of Buffalo $200,000 for taking the job at Kansas. KU Athletics paid that. Gill’s current contract does not include such a penalty.

    Of the nine contracts available for this column, six were written with language more favorable to the university than Gill’s. Not surprisingly, the University of Texas and Oklahoma University stand to save the most via buyouts should they ever elect to dump football coaches Mack Brown or Bob Stoops before the end of their contracts. In addition, Oklahoma State would save 25 percent of its contract with coach Mike Gundy should OSU can Gundy without cause and Iowa State would save nearly 50 percent if the Cyclones hand Paul Rhoads his walking papers.

    Why Gill’s contract was written in such a one-sided manner is puzzling, especially given he was making less than $500,000 a year at Buffalo. Optimists would say Perkins was so convinced Gill would upgrade the football program that he did not see the need to include language that is pretty standard in college coaching contracts.

    Pessimists would question the competence of KU athletics, which just went through a messy divorce with Mangino. Because there was no buyout in place, Perkins had to launch an investigation into Mangino’s coaching tactics in order to scare the coach into thinking KU could fire him with cause. That put Mangino in the mood to negotiate and led to a $3 million settlement.

    Burned once by not having a buyout clause, wouldn’t you think KU officials would’ve learned from their mistake and made sure to include one for Gill?

    There’s a lot more than Gill’s salary to consider when talking about something as serious as firing a man who has not yet been given a fair chance to prove he’s a Big 12-caliber head coach. For one, he hasn’t been able to recruit players who fit his style. For another, Gill’s assistants make a combined salary of more than $2 million annually. Those are guaranteed for two years apiece, three in the cases of coordinators Chuck Long and Carl Torbush, who each make $350,000 a year.

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    Re: Perkins last F U to Kansas Fans...

    Dr. Bob sat behind me at the corn game in 2005 and I'll admit the thought crossed my mind to say something about cutting the men's sports and overall lack up facilities upgrades for football under his watch but I kept my mouth shut as he clearly loved KU and did the best he could.

    If Lew were sitting behind me at a game it would be everything I could do to keep from fighting his fat ass. What kind of brain cramp was he having to float such a contract when he has demonstrated in so many other ways a high business acumen? Is he THAT arrogant? It is tempting to put on the tin foil hat and think he was giving a big giant finger to KU...........

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    • #3
      Re: Perkins last F U to Kansas Fans...

      Maybe we can appeal to Gill's ethics and morals. Being a good Christian man, we could simply ask him to renegotiate with us to an "extension" so to speak, where we extend his contract to 7 years and 12 million dollars, renewed performance enhancements like a $50k bonus for beating one of our rivals, we could throw in a $250k retention bonus for if he stays the whole time (you know, given his proclivity to interview at any job available in the country since we are afraid the likes of Auburn or Nebraska will steal him away), and then slip in a buyout clause to buy him out for a pack of Trident Layers.

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        Re: Perkins last F U to Kansas Fans...

        [quote author=Jhawk2001 link=topic=1652.msg17917#msg17917 date=1287683375]
        Maybe we can appeal to Gill's ethics and morals. Being a good Christian man, we could simply ask him to renegotiate with us to an "extension" so to speak, where we extend his contract to 7 years and 12 million dollars, renewed performance enhancements like a $50k bonus for beating one of our rivals, we could throw in a $250k retention bonus for if he stays the whole time (you know, given his proclivity to interview at any job available in the country since we are afraid the likes of Auburn or Nebraska will steal him away), and then slip in a buyout clause to buy him out for a pack of Trident Layers.
        [/quote]

        This might be closer to the truth. After this year, offer him a two-year extension with more money per year, but with a buyout clause. Then you can cut his ass after year 3 and only owe him a small amount versus $4M.

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        • #5
          Re: Perkins last F U to Kansas Fans...

          Anyone realize that the Chancellor had to sign on that contract too?

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          • #6
            Re: Perkins last F U to Kansas Fans...

            [quote author=dominatindj11 link=topic=1652.msg17919#msg17919 date=1287683603]
            Anyone realize that the Chancellor had to sign on that contract too?
            [/quote]

            When she signed it, Lew didn't have the black cloud over him as he does now. I'm guessing she went along with the guy-in-the-know. Hopefully some strong (wealthy) alumni can convince her to do something that put the ball back in KU's court.

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            • #7
              Re: Perkins last F U to Kansas Fans...

              [quote author=CStop link=topic=1652.msg17918#msg17918 date=1287683488]
              [quote author=Jhawk2001 link=topic=1652.msg17917#msg17917 date=1287683375]
              Maybe we can appeal to Gill's ethics and morals. Being a good Christian man, we could simply ask him to renegotiate with us to an "extension" so to speak, where we extend his contract to 7 years and 12 million dollars, renewed performance enhancements like a $50k bonus for beating one of our rivals, we could throw in a $250k retention bonus for if he stays the whole time (you know, given his proclivity to interview at any job available in the country since we are afraid the likes of Auburn or Nebraska will steal him away), and then slip in a buyout clause to buy him out for a pack of Trident Layers.
              [/quote]



              This might be closer to the truth. After this year, offer him a two-year extension with more money per year, but with a buyout clause. Then you can cut his ass after year 3 and only owe him a small amount versus $4M.
              [/quote]

              Yes, that's what I am hinting at. We could simply renegotiate by giving him some consideration and then we get some in return. Of course, he could tell us to go fuck ourselves (in a much nicer way). We'd have to approach him hat in hand to get there. Obviously Gill isn't going anywhere for a while. Given our youth, maybe he can win a few more games next year and we could use that "success" to seek to extend him and rework the contract to a little bit more favorable to the University. Gill's under no obligation to do anything. His agent would be foolish to advise him to do so after a year. But with all the grousing about Gill and whether he should be fired, he may have further difficulties in recruiting if we could axe him at anytime. As if the mountain of losing to dogshit Baylor and getting pisspounded at home to K-State won't be difficult to overcome in itself.

              He's doomed to failure. No one wanted him here except a few. He gets his clock cleaned against two doormats, and loses to D-1AA school in his opener. His message rings hollow to many, he changes many policies, institutes ugly uniforms, and then there is this:

              [img width=600 height=449]http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii61/wavinwheat/uni-1.jpg[/img]

              Hideous concept that makes us look like his alma mater. The dude just isn't flying high right now, but damn is he rich.

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              • #8
                Re: Perkins last F U to Kansas Fans...

                [quote author=Jhawk2001 link=topic=1652.msg17924#msg17924 date=1287684046]
                [quote author=CStop link=topic=1652.msg17918#msg17918 date=1287683488]
                [quote author=Jhawk2001 link=topic=1652.msg17917#msg17917 date=1287683375]
                Maybe we can appeal to Gill's ethics and morals. Being a good Christian man, we could simply ask him to renegotiate with us to an "extension" so to speak, where we extend his contract to 7 years and 12 million dollars, renewed performance enhancements like a $50k bonus for beating one of our rivals, we could throw in a $250k retention bonus for if he stays the whole time (you know, given his proclivity to interview at any job available in the country since we are afraid the likes of Auburn or Nebraska will steal him away), and then slip in a buyout clause to buy him out for a pack of Trident Layers.
                [/quote]



                This might be closer to the truth. After this year, offer him a two-year extension with more money per year, but with a buyout clause. Then you can cut his ass after year 3 and only owe him a small amount versus $4M.
                [/quote]

                Yes, that's what I am hinting at. We could simply renegotiate by giving him some consideration and then we get some in return. Of course, he could tell us to go fuck ourselves (in a much nicer way). We'd have to approach him hat in hand to get there. Obviously Gill isn't going anywhere for a while. Given our youth, maybe he can win a few more games next year and we could use that "success" to seek to extend him and rework the contract to a little bit more favorable to the University. Gill's under no obligation to do anything. His agent would be foolish to advise him to do so after a year. But with all the grousing about Gill and whether he should be fired, he may have further difficulties in recruiting if we could axe him at anytime. As if the mountain of losing to dogshit Baylor and getting pisspounded at home to K-State won't be difficult to overcome in itself.

                He's doomed to failure. No one wanted him here except a few. He gets his clock cleaned against two doormats, and loses to D-1AA school in his opener. His message rings hollow to many, he changes many policies, institutes ugly uniforms, and then there is this:

                [img width=600 height=449]http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii61/wavinwheat/uni-1.jpg[/img]

                Hideous concept that makes us look like his alma mater. The dude just isn't flying high right now, but damn is he rich.
                [/quote]

                Don't get hung up on the red jerseys in the background. My guess it is for an all-white uniform for mizzou. Look at what mizzou could be wearing:



                :devil:

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                • #9
                  Re: Perkins last F U to Kansas Fans...

                  [quote author=CStop link=topic=1652.msg17930#msg17930 date=1287684737]
                  [quote author=Jhawk2001 link=topic=1652.msg17924#msg17924 date=1287684046]
                  [quote author=CStop link=topic=1652.msg17918#msg17918 date=1287683488]
                  [quote author=Jhawk2001 link=topic=1652.msg17917#msg17917 date=1287683375]
                  Maybe we can appeal to Gill's ethics and morals. Being a good Christian man, we could simply ask him to renegotiate with us to an "extension" so to speak, where we extend his contract to 7 years and 12 million dollars, renewed performance enhancements like a $50k bonus for beating one of our rivals, we could throw in a $250k retention bonus for if he stays the whole time (you know, given his proclivity to interview at any job available in the country since we are afraid the likes of Auburn or Nebraska will steal him away), and then slip in a buyout clause to buy him out for a pack of Trident Layers.
                  [/quote]



                  This might be closer to the truth. After this year, offer him a two-year extension with more money per year, but with a buyout clause. Then you can cut his ass after year 3 and only owe him a small amount versus $4M.
                  [/quote]

                  Yes, that's what I am hinting at. We could simply renegotiate by giving him some consideration and then we get some in return. Of course, he could tell us to go fuck ourselves (in a much nicer way). We'd have to approach him hat in hand to get there. Obviously Gill isn't going anywhere for a while. Given our youth, maybe he can win a few more games next year and we could use that "success" to seek to extend him and rework the contract to a little bit more favorable to the University. Gill's under no obligation to do anything. His agent would be foolish to advise him to do so after a year. But with all the grousing about Gill and whether he should be fired, he may have further difficulties in recruiting if we could axe him at anytime. As if the mountain of losing to dogshit Baylor and getting pisspounded at home to K-State won't be difficult to overcome in itself.

                  He's doomed to failure. No one wanted him here except a few. He gets his clock cleaned against two doormats, and loses to D-1AA school in his opener. His message rings hollow to many, he changes many policies, institutes ugly uniforms, and then there is this:

                  [img width=600 height=449]http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii61/wavinwheat/uni-1.jpg[/img]

                  Hideous concept that makes us look like his alma mater. The dude just isn't flying high right now, but damn is he rich.
                  [/quote]

                  Don't get hung up on the red jerseys in the background. My guess it is for an all-white uniform for mizzou. Look at what mizzou could be wearing:



                  :devil:
                  [/quote]

                  I wouldn't put it past this staff to make another bumbling decision.

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