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  • Colorado is in trouble

    Per Kyle Ringo, CU still has 10,000 tickets to sell for their home opener.

    It's starting to look like the Pac 10 bought painted rust.

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    They have an apathetic fan base and no money. They are more than rusty. Utah might end being the better addition to the Pac 10.

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    • #3
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      [quote author=CStop link=topic=1079.msg11339#msg11339 date=1284512500]
      They have an apathetic fan base and no money. They are more than rusty. Utah might end being the better addition to the Pac 10.
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      I think at this point you'd have to think that they already are better than CU. Utah has a better football program with probably comparable facilities and a better basketball program with almost certainly better facilities. Plus, Salt Lake City is more of a college sports town when it comes to football than Denver, so in my view Utah has kind of an upper hand there. CU fans never travel and they haven't given a crap about home games since the early 2000's, plus their athletic department is broke as a joke and has reportedly had bad leadership and a horrible corporate culture for years now. Utah fans traveled somewhat well to the Sugar Bowl and have a much more solid fanbase, and they likely don't have as toxic of a culture in their athletic department either.

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        [quote author=T42YS link=topic=1079.msg11352#msg11352 date=1284514389]
        [quote author=CStop link=topic=1079.msg11339#msg11339 date=1284512500]
        They have an apathetic fan base and no money. They are more than rusty. Utah might end being the better addition to the Pac 10.
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        I think at this point you'd have to think that they already are better than CU. Utah has a better football program with probably comparable facilities and a better basketball program with almost certainly better facilities. Plus, Salt Lake City is more of a college sports town when it comes to football than Denver, so in my view Utah has kind of an upper hand there. CU fans never travel and they haven't given a crap about home games since the early 2000's, plus their athletic department is broke as a joke and has reportedly had bad leadership and a horrible corporate culture for years now. Utah fans traveled somewhat well to the Sugar Bowl and have a much more solid fanbase, and they likely don't have as toxic of a culture in their athletic department either.
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        They also don't have Hawkins running their program into the ground.

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          The only advantage is the bigger TV market in Colorado. Skiing is even better at Snow Bird.

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            [quote author=Silasbuddy link=topic=1079.msg11373#msg11373 date=1284520154]
            The only advantage is the bigger TV market in Colorado. Skiing is even better at Snow Bird.
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            A tv market isn't worth crap if there isn't ANY fan interest. Try getting a Colorado cable company to carry a Pac 12 network. I don't know if they'd carry it on basic in Boulder.

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              Colorado doesn't care about college sports.

              It's all Broncos, Rockies, Avalanche, and Nuggets there.

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              • #8
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                Randy, you think the TV market in Utah is better than Colorado?

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                  [quote author=Silasbuddy link=topic=1079.msg11405#msg11405 date=1284557626]
                  Randy, you think the TV market in Utah is better than Colorado?
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                  How many professional teams are in Utah? How many in Colorado?

                  In Utah, college football is the only game in town.

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                    [quote author=Jayhawker link=topic=1079.msg11381#msg11381 date=1284524622]
                    Colorado doesn't care about college sports.

                    It's all Broncos, Rockies, Avalanche, and Nuggets there.
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                    Correction - It's all Broncos. Even in May, it's still Broncos. That was the worst thing about living in Denver and the Front Range.

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                    • #11
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                      Even if the following is weak, Colorado is still a bigger TV market potential in network $ than Utah. Kansas has rabid fans, but the PAC 10 is not looking at KU (at least not now) for reasons you indicated. Colorado will get the PAC 10 some in-conference TV sets that are not based on the Pacific coast or neighboring states. Something the PAC 10 desperately wants.

                      The only thing Colorado has going for it IS the TV market, it sure is not their competitive teams in football or basketball.

                      As far as competition, I would not be surprised if Utah dominates the PAC 10 in both football and basketball and the Utah fans will be even more excited with their only show in town. Colorado sure will not dominate in sports, but I bet Colorado does better in the PAC 10 than they will/would in the Big 12.

                      The question I ask myself is would the PAC 10 had taken Colorado if they knew the rest of the Big 12 south was not part of the package? Other that the dubious TV sets and prestige of stealing a team from another BCS conference, what does Colorado bring? I almost think the Big 12 is better off without Colorado. We can find a better replacement or increase our revenues without them.

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                      • #12
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                        I think that if the P10 could renig, they would.

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                          [quote author=nicname link=topic=1079.msg12403#msg12403 date=1284780564]
                          I think that if the P10 could renig, they would.
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                          They were part of the package of 6. Colorado knew it was wise to accept right away just in case back-room negotiations caused something to change (i.e. chainsaw). Colorado is only going to help them get to 12 for a championship game. They technically bring the Denver market, but it's strictly numbers and no support. Texas Tech and Oklahoma State would bring more from an athletic department standpoint than Colorado. CU is years away from turning it self around at best, but it might take decades with their alumni and fan support.

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