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  • Pfizer CEO says co. will know if vaccine works by end of October. Will you take it?

    Hypothetically, lets say a vaccine is available before 2021. Would you take it before the New Year?

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-v...ctober-pfizer/

    Washington — Albert Bourla, the head of pharmaceutical giant Pfizer, which is among the companies developing a coronavirus vaccine, said Sunday there is a "good chance" the company will know whether its vaccine works by the end of October.

    In an interview with "Face the Nation," Bourla said it's not yet known whether Americans will be able to receive a coronavirus vaccine before 2021, as issuance of a license depends on federal regulators. But studies from Pfizer indicate "we have a good chance that we will know if the product works by the end of October."

    Still, Bourla said Pfizer is preparing for approval from the federal government and distribution of a vaccine before the end of the year.

    "We started already manufacturing and we have already manufactured hundreds of thousands of doses, so just in case we have a good study readout, conclusive and FDA, plus the advisory committee feels comfortable that we will be ready," he said.

    Pfizer, which has partnered with BioNtech on its coronavirus vaccine, has begun enrolling 30,000 people in its phase three vaccine trial but is looking to expand its enrollment to 44,000. Bourla said the decision to increase the number of participants stems from its desire to expand to more vulnerable populations.

    "We go to younger people. Right now, the study recruits from 18 to 85. Now we will go to 16 years old," he said. "Also, we will go to people with special conditions, chronic conditions like HIV patients, but also we will try to use it to increase the diversity of the population."

    While Pfizer is one of several companies currently enrolling participants in its phase three vaccine trial, it is the only U.S.-based pharmaceutical company that has rejected federal dollars for its vaccine candidate.

    Bourla acknowledged that if its coronavirus vaccine fails, Pfizer will absorb the financial hit. But he said he decided not to accept government funding for vaccine development to shield the pharmaceutical giant from politics.

    "I wanted to liberate our scientists from any bureaucracy," he said. "When you get money from someone that always comes with strings. They want to see how we are going to progress, what type of moves you are going to do. They want reports. I didn't want to have any of that. I wanted them — basically I gave them an open checkbook so that they can worry only about scientific challenges, not anything else. And also, I wanted to keep Pfizer out of politics."

    While Bourla stopped short of predicting when Americans may be able to receive a coronavirus vaccine, Dr. Scott Gottlieb, former commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration and a member of Pfizer's board of directors, has stressed he does not believe a vaccine will be widely available until 2021.

    "This is likely to be a very staged market entry," he said on "Face the Nation." "I think that's what people should expect. But for most people, they will not have access to a vaccine until 2021. I think maybe the first quarter of 2021, probably the first half of 2021. And that's assuming that these vaccines are demonstrated to be safe and effective in these large trials."

    If any population in the U.S. is to receive a coronavirus vaccine this year, Gottlieb predicted it will be those who are at a high risk of becoming very sick from the virus or frontline workers who are at a high risk of contracting it.

    "What we're going to be doing is targeting the vaccine to select groups of people who are at very high risk of a bad outcome from COVID to try to reduce their risk," he said. "But it's not going to be used to achieve broad-based immunity, at least in 2020, perhaps in 2021."

  • #2
    If the FDA says it's safe, I'll be the first in line.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by MissTCShore View Post
      If the FDA says it's safe, I'll be the first in line.
      I'll be right behind you. (He said not creepily at all.)

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      • #4
        I'm cool with staying mostly isolated, wearing a mask, avoiding other people, and waiting to see if the guinea pi...er...early adopters drop dead or sprout webbed feet or something before I get in line.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by FrobozMumbar View Post
          I'm cool with staying mostly isolated, wearing a mask, avoiding other people, and waiting to see if the guinea pi...er...early adopters drop dead or sprout webbed feet or something before I get in line.
          Definitely first in line for that! Michael Phelps watch out!

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          • #6
            I'll get as soon as I can. But working and getting FDA approval aren't the same thing (though, Trump will speed up the approval AmIRight?).
            Fauci has said repeatedly that it's possible at least one of the vaccines being tested could get emergency authorization from the US Food and Drug Administration by the end of this year or early next year. But it won't be available to everyone immediately."By the time you mobilize the distribution of the vaccinations, and you get the majority, or more, of the population vaccinated and protected, that's likely not going to happen to the mid or end of 2021,"
            I hate the thought of living this way for another year.

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            • #7
              This was asked in a big group I was in recently and the answers were interesting. It seems like people are split right about 50/50 on this and that it has no significant relationship to partisan politics (yet).

              I'm down to get it as long as the consensus among experts that I trust is positive.

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              • #8
                I'm fine to wait a few months so that (a) higher risk groups can have access first, and (b) I can benefit from hundreds of millions of patient hours of data.

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                • #9
                  I'm expecting that the earliest vaccines to come out will not be the best ones. We'll have better ones in a year or two (or three or four). That said, the first ones approved should still be effective in the short term. I don't mind getting another vaccine in a few years to "boost" the first one.

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                  • #10
                    I'd be down.

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                    • #11
                      Nope

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LARPHawk View Post
                        This was asked in a big group I was in recently and the answers were interesting. It seems like people are split right about 50/50 on this and that it has no significant relationship to partisan politics (yet).

                        I'm down to get it as long as the consensus among experts that I trust is positive.
                        I'm seeing people on social media say they want no part of it since they believe it is connected to Trump. Then again, boomerbook gonna boomerbook.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Aquemini View Post

                          I'm seeing people on social media say they want no part of it since they believe it is connected to Trump. Then again, boomerbook gonna boomerbook.
                          One of the reasons I wouldn't mind getting the vaccine is because the FDA is one of the few agencies that has managed to not be completely subverted by Trump cabinet appointments.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MissTCShore View Post
                            If the FDA says it's safe, I'll be the first in line.
                            As long as there's no interference by the administration, and it passes the requisite tests, MissT and I will get our jabs in the dungeon together.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by GardArmighty View Post

                              As long as there's no interference by the administration, and it passes the requisite tests, MissT and I will get our jabs in the dungeon together.
                              So basically a basement full of little pricks?

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