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  • Relaxation with Anxiety

    Anxiety is a pretty hot topic these days, even to the point that it's kinda "cool" to have anxiety.

    I never really thought about it until I quit drinking and everyone said I was always super anxious. I guess I was self-medicating with booze, but it has really manifested itself lately.

    Even when things are good, I don't let myself fully relax because that's a good way to get a bad surprise.

    Recently, I received some neuro feedback that actually confirmed that I had pretty bad anxiety (see session notes HERE), so I've been doing some reading on methods for working on it, one of which includes neuro feedback training

    It's always hard to explain anxiety to people that don't struggle with it, but I happened upon this article this AM and thought it did a great job of explaining the mindset, at least for the flavor of anxiety I deal with.

    Thought I'd share and see if anyone else around here had thoughts on the matter

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    Interesting, but I'm moreso glad to hear that you're taking steps to try to get better.

    I follow a handful of NPR pop culture critics and one of them recently recommended a podcast called "The Hilarious World of Depression," which has since been adapted into an autobiography, so I started listening while out for walks. Each episode is the host interviewing a different comic/entertainer about their struggles with various mental health issues, from what brought them on to how it affected their work/life and the lengths they went to in order to get better. It's really fascinating to hear them talk about their experiences. There's one with Neal Brennan that's especially interesting.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by NoPantsChico View Post
      Interesting, but I'm moreso glad to hear that you're taking steps to try to get better.

      I follow a handful of NPR pop culture critics and one of them recently recommended a podcast called "The Hilarious World of Depression," which has since been adapted into an autobiography, so I started listening while out for walks. Each episode is the host interviewing a different comic/entertainer about their struggles with various mental health issues, from what brought them on to how it affected their work/life and the lengths they went to in order to get better. It's really fascinating to hear them talk about their experiences. There's one with Neal Brennan that's especially interesting.
      Thanks!

      That sounds like an awesome listen. I will add it to my rotation, but specifically look for the Neal Brennan episode

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      • #4
        I have found that if I go to my happy place, I can get rid of most of it. My happy place is a beach with light warm trade winds in the background. Lush vegetation and palm trees. A couple of good books, a colorful cocktail and some smooth jazz in the background. That seems to make it go away.

        I also realized my own thought patterns help make it worse. Most of mine were about work and I finally realized, what’s the worst thing they can do to me?
        Fire me and I can find something else to do. They can’t torture, put me in jail or kill me. That helped a lot.

        My suggestion would be try to relax. Relaxing and a bad future surprise have nothing to do with each other. How many bad surprises have you gotten when you were tense? It’s like when KU loses and I forgot to wear my lucks socks. Has to be my fault right? No, because they have lost when I had my lucky socks on as well.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Joe Norris View Post
          Anxiety is a pretty hot topic these days, even to the point that it's kinda "cool" to have anxiety.

          I never really thought about it until I quit drinking and everyone said I was always super anxious. I guess I was self-medicating with booze, but it has really manifested itself lately.

          Even when things are good, I don't let myself fully relax because that's a good way to get a bad surprise.

          Recently, I received some neuro feedback that actually confirmed that I had pretty bad anxiety (see session notes HERE), so I've been doing some reading on methods for working on it, one of which includes neuro feedback training

          It's always hard to explain anxiety to people that don't struggle with it, but I happened upon this article this AM and thought it did a great job of explaining the mindset, at least for the flavor of anxiety I deal with.

          Thought I'd share and see if anyone else around here had thoughts on the matter
          Did you get a MRI or CT scan?

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          • #6
            I do not personally struggle with anxiety, but so many people in my life struggle with severe anxiety that it has become a part of my personal life. Neuro feedback training sounds a lot like a process that my X wife used called remyelination of the brain. She learned about this process through a physician by the name of Gabor Mate. See, Dr. Mate primarily works with addiction, and one of my cousins- who had a profound addiction to heroin- attended one of his clinics in Canada. Dr. Mate's process is to put these addicts into a safe environment and administer clean heroin legally. It sounds counter intuitive, but his clinics have extraordinarily low relapse percentages (it's why I took my cousin up to Canada personally). His theory is that addiction, like any habit, is nurtured through the same neuro process- that we send the same signals through the same neuro pathways, and that those pathways, in turn, become ridged and difficult to change. There is a an immediate and profound change that happens by providing a safe environment with health care professionals administering heroin legally. As Gabor would say, that feeling that every addict gets right before shooting up of guilt and self loathing and even fear is changed into something acceptable; and in doing so, new neuro pathways are explored. You then branch out from those new roots through self discovery and look into the core of the problem. Drugs are merely a symptom of a deeper and more profound problem.

            Believe it or not, anxiety is not so terribly different than addiction. They are habitual processes brought on by something more innate and deeper. I think that you can treat the symptoms of anxiety with pharmaceuticals- but that will on treat the symptoms. To treat the source, you must first break the habit. Then you can discover the source. Remyelination (or neuro feedback training) are great ways to break the habit; but more work will need to be done after that. I'd start by asking myself what I'm really afraid of and what control do I really have? Because bad things happen no matter what and you have no control over that. Control is an illusion and letting go of that illusion is freedom. Easy for me to say- hard for you to live. But do ask yourself what you really are afraid of and admit that you have no control over in preventing that fear from becoming true. Embrace the fear- let go of control. And best of luck to you. If you break free of this affliction, you'll feel more free than you've ever felt in your life.

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            • #7
              I don't think that's what remyelination means. And I would know.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Aquemini View Post

                Did you get a MRI or CT scan?
                Neither. She hooked me up to some equipment and monitored my brain waves....showed my how tensing up and different actions would affect the waves and stuff....don’t know what the equipment was actually called

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                • #9
                  I just read the thread title and assumed "Anxiety" was the name of a stripper or an escort.

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