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  • Move out of the US forever, would you do it?

    Truthfully, this isn't political, I just got to thinking about it in the Northeast thread.

    If you could move out of the US, no consequences, you're a citizen wherever you go, have a comparable job with comparable career opportunities, and you can never move back, would you do it?

    Hell, let's make it even easier, your family is equidistant to where you are at this moment and you have the same ability to visit them as you do now. I'll even let you visit America at the same clip you travel internationally.

    If you would move, where would you go?

    My only trips out of the US have been to Canada and Mexico (Korea, but I was a baby, so I won't count it), so my knowledge is limited. I've always wanted to visit a nordic country, but haven't done nearly enough research to say I'd want to live there forever.

    Honestly, I love it here, not just for MURICA, but I love that you're a flight away from a completely different climate/topography/etc.

    I would stay.

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    I don’t think I understand the scenario you’ve laid out. What’s the incentive to move again? Given everything else you’ve outlined, and that essentially nothing would change in your family life/dynamic, you are basically asking “do you hate America” as that seems to be the only motivation for someone to want to leave and never come back.

    Don’t see too many people admitting to that here.

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    • #3
      Totally. I just returned from a 10-day trip to Europe (Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Northern Germany) and would move if given the chance. In the past I've applied for jobs in Europe without thinking too much about where "home" is for me, so I don't think there would be anything to prevent me from saying yes to your option. I love the US, especially the midwest, but it's a big world out there with lots to experience.

      Also, Joe Norris, Scandinavia is awesome. You definitely need to go in your lifetime.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by TheBricklayer View Post
        I don’t think I understand the scenario you’ve laid out. What’s the incentive to move again? Given everything else you’ve outlined, and that essentially nothing would change in your family life/dynamic, you are basically asking “do you hate America” as that seems to be the only motivation for someone to want to leave and never come back.

        Don’t see too many people admitting to that here.
        LOL wat? A lot of people would LOVE to move to Australia, or anywhere in Europe, or Asia, for any number of reasons, but there are constraints of family, job, career. Where is this "hate" of America you speak of? You're reading way too much into it

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        • #5
          Also, Brick, there are plenty of self loathing Americans, which is just fine too, it's a free country

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          • #6
            There are a couple of places outside of the US that I would consider living, but given that my family and everyone I know is here, I doubt I would move.

            My favorite place that I've visited is Aruba, but I'm not sure I could live there. The weather is great, but the Island is crowded and much of it is pretty run-down.

            I think I'm too Americanized to be comfortable anywhere else.

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            • #7
              Ireland and Netherlands I'd move to if I could see my family as easily as I can now. Amsterdam is the only city I've visited that I really didn't want to come home from. I think I'd still stay in the US though. I couldn't exercise my firearms addiction in the EU.

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              • #8
                I chose no, but if I did it would be to Canada because of the hunting and fishing.

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                • #9
                  I would like to undertake an adventure like that. Assuming I'm free to come back to visit friends, family and Allen Field House, I'd love to live in other parts of the world.

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                  • #10
                    I've lived in other countries. And I wouldn't trade my citizenship for anything. Unless we start losing freedoms or become socialist, then I might consider it. As it stands currently the ol U.S. of A is still the freest , richest and strongest country in the world.

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                    • #11
                      can I still visit Lake of the Ozarks?

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                      • #12
                        Since I’m getting close (a few years) to having both of my kids out of the house, I would consider this. It would need to be a place with no language barrier, cool temperatures and great outdoor life.

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                        • #13
                          I lived in Japan for a year and in Germany for close to 2 years. Great experiences. I'd consider living in either place "permanently" if the situation was right, but not at the expense of my U.S. citizenship. I'm also considering Roatan, Honduras and a few other Central American locations, as a possible ex-pat retirement destination.

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                          • #14
                            Sure. I used to think Italy, but Italy has the crazy going on (though, I might still do Napels just because). Ireland is my DNA (way more than one-one thousandths, too), but the country seemed boring when I traveled there 2 years ago. Maybe Dublin, maybe.

                            I'd probably live in Vancouver (if I could afford housing), Paris, Vienna, Zurich (or maybe it's Geneva -- or either), or Stockholm. Since weather matters to me, I might instead do Cape Town or Singapore. I don't know that I trust South Africa enough to live in Cape Town, though. Hmmm. For that matter . . . . I liked Bali, and you can hire a driver for 10 hours for about $30, but you also need to hire a driver because trying to drive is for the stupids. It is paradise, though (I mean, outside of the abject poverty). And, as much as they are peaceful and loving people in Bali, it's still Indonesia and the BBC puts it best, "Indonesia has become one of the world's major emerging economies, but faces demands for independence in several provinces and increasing attacks by Islamist armed groups."

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                            • #15
                              There are quite a few countries where I think the quality of life would be quite a bit better (especially if I get to bring my salary with me).

                              I don't think I'd like being an expat permanently. I can speak passable Spanish, but my foreign language aptitude is pretty bad. Having spent weeks at a time overseas (but never months), I like experiencing different cultures but I think I'd always feel like an outsider to some degree. Paris is probably worth it if that were my only objection, but then there's the distance from friends and family as well. In the real world the only place I might move is Canada, but I don't like the cold, and at the moment I'm not eligible to move there.

                              Bricklayer's post is beautiful, a perfectly-distilled parody of American culture.

                              I follow the FIRE community pretty heavily (financial independence/retire early) and there are a lot of people there who are convinced they're going to retire in Asia to reach financial independence sooner. Many of them have never even visited Asia. I think more of them than not are in for a very rude awakening if they follow through.

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